Canadian_Dream
07-08 09:07 PM
Macaca:
The anticipated demand (that is calculated based on Pending Applications, New Applications that might become approvable and plethora of other factors including guess work) on Oct 1 2005/Oct 1 2006 was MUCH higher than 140,000 that was available for the entire year. Infact you have to break 140,000 into four quarters and apply contry quota (7%) to it since EB-3 ROW was not current on these dates. Thus it was hardly a surprise that India and China and EB-3 ROW remained retrogress on these dates.
Now fast forward to June 2007, there were 40,000 visa available in that last quarter and EB-3 ROW was in no position to consume that many that means spillover would come to India and China EB3/EB3 or else visa would be wasted in big numbers. The solution was to increase the supply and hence everything was current overnight. Until USCIS came in to spoil the party. They didn't do it in any simple way instead they choose the route of complete exhashtion and hence shutting the door.
Bottom line is: Unless demand for EB-3 ROW subsides (or it becomes current leaving substantial numbers for spillover) India EB-2 will always be cap subjected to 3200 or so visas every year. The sad part is catching up with the demand for EB-3 ROW is a moving target and thus EB-2 India might NEVER qualify for spillovers. I hope I am proved wrong by someone who has more insight.
140K GCs were available on Oct 1 2005 and Oct 2006: categories were not current.
< 40K GCs were available on June 12 2007: all categories were current.
If there is a law to prevent acceptance of ALL AOS's on Oct 1 (when 140K GCs are available) then that law was violated on June 12 2007.
If there is no law to prevent acceptance of AOS's on June 12 (when < 40K GCs were available) then all categories should have been current on Oct 1 2005 and Oct 1 2006.
The anticipated demand (that is calculated based on Pending Applications, New Applications that might become approvable and plethora of other factors including guess work) on Oct 1 2005/Oct 1 2006 was MUCH higher than 140,000 that was available for the entire year. Infact you have to break 140,000 into four quarters and apply contry quota (7%) to it since EB-3 ROW was not current on these dates. Thus it was hardly a surprise that India and China and EB-3 ROW remained retrogress on these dates.
Now fast forward to June 2007, there were 40,000 visa available in that last quarter and EB-3 ROW was in no position to consume that many that means spillover would come to India and China EB3/EB3 or else visa would be wasted in big numbers. The solution was to increase the supply and hence everything was current overnight. Until USCIS came in to spoil the party. They didn't do it in any simple way instead they choose the route of complete exhashtion and hence shutting the door.
Bottom line is: Unless demand for EB-3 ROW subsides (or it becomes current leaving substantial numbers for spillover) India EB-2 will always be cap subjected to 3200 or so visas every year. The sad part is catching up with the demand for EB-3 ROW is a moving target and thus EB-2 India might NEVER qualify for spillovers. I hope I am proved wrong by someone who has more insight.
140K GCs were available on Oct 1 2005 and Oct 2006: categories were not current.
< 40K GCs were available on June 12 2007: all categories were current.
If there is a law to prevent acceptance of ALL AOS's on Oct 1 (when 140K GCs are available) then that law was violated on June 12 2007.
If there is no law to prevent acceptance of AOS's on June 12 (when < 40K GCs were available) then all categories should have been current on Oct 1 2005 and Oct 1 2006.
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mundada
09-10 04:05 PM
:D
If USCIS cannot recapture lost visas from 1992 to 2008 then can it forward capture the visas from next 30 years and clear the backlog?
This way the US can have a stated policy of not accepting any EB immigrant from India/China for next 30 years.
It will also avoid the issue of people retiring doing the same or similar job for 20+ years and without a green card.
It will prevent one generation from India/China from being fooled into American Dream.
If USCIS cannot recapture lost visas from 1992 to 2008 then can it forward capture the visas from next 30 years and clear the backlog?
This way the US can have a stated policy of not accepting any EB immigrant from India/China for next 30 years.
It will also avoid the issue of people retiring doing the same or similar job for 20+ years and without a green card.
It will prevent one generation from India/China from being fooled into American Dream.
kosu
06-13 06:53 PM
Atlast all my checks are cashed today. I am able to get my case number from the checks. Even though INS received my application on June 6th, in my 485 it says that they have received my application only on June 11th. Wonder why?
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jindhal
09-23 04:46 PM
With recapture, with country cap removal, with any other fixes that you can think of until you are not feeding yourself from my plate
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InTheMoment
06-15 06:16 PM
Adding to that suggestion it would bode well to rename this thread as "June 2007 filer's updates"
Admin - please review.
Admin - please review.
midguy
03-26 12:08 PM
Hi All,
just want estimate and plan ....my PD is 16-June-2003 EB3 India. When can my date will current.
Thank you.
just want estimate and plan ....my PD is 16-June-2003 EB3 India. When can my date will current.
Thank you.
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jk333
07-08 01:18 PM
Excellent points dvsnm.
Once the date, time, and agenda are fixed, we'll hit the roads.
We can also come out with a common flier.
Adding to this:
* Each major company in the bay area must have their own internal
network/alias. They can spread the word within and pool in more support
for this.
-JK
Guys I am looking at this thread for the first time today and want to put some comments:
1) 3 people were making hunger strike at SJSU over the last weekend for DREAM act and we come to know about it thru 1510 AM, KLIVE in Bay Area.
2) Immigration Voice members are planning to make a rally in SJ and we need to read it in the forum of (only) their website.
3) We are hungry about media coverage and want utmost attention of the congressmen about our issues.
BUT, you know what we are missing?:
1) No postings on the windows of those Bharat Bajars and Cash N Carrys and Kumuds. Can't the i-phone designers and router gurus make Ashas and Abhijeets invisible with some eye catching posters?
2) No postings on those other popular websites like murthy.com, immigration-law.com, bata.org etc. Did they say no for this?
3) No usage of the library notice boards.
4) No usage of SMS. Isn't it much cheaper than making contributions to the IV repeatedly?
I hope to see all these channels being utilized fully for July 14/21 march in Bay Area before we talk about CNNs and WPs.
Once the streets of SJ are hit with 1000+ people, those NBCs and CNNs and SJMs will come to us rather than we going to them.
As for myself, I am in whenever the event takes place and will try to bring at least 5 of my friends to the march.
P.S.: This is not an effort to criticize anyone here but just an attempt to help the organizers in whatever way I can.
Once the date, time, and agenda are fixed, we'll hit the roads.
We can also come out with a common flier.
Adding to this:
* Each major company in the bay area must have their own internal
network/alias. They can spread the word within and pool in more support
for this.
-JK
Guys I am looking at this thread for the first time today and want to put some comments:
1) 3 people were making hunger strike at SJSU over the last weekend for DREAM act and we come to know about it thru 1510 AM, KLIVE in Bay Area.
2) Immigration Voice members are planning to make a rally in SJ and we need to read it in the forum of (only) their website.
3) We are hungry about media coverage and want utmost attention of the congressmen about our issues.
BUT, you know what we are missing?:
1) No postings on the windows of those Bharat Bajars and Cash N Carrys and Kumuds. Can't the i-phone designers and router gurus make Ashas and Abhijeets invisible with some eye catching posters?
2) No postings on those other popular websites like murthy.com, immigration-law.com, bata.org etc. Did they say no for this?
3) No usage of the library notice boards.
4) No usage of SMS. Isn't it much cheaper than making contributions to the IV repeatedly?
I hope to see all these channels being utilized fully for July 14/21 march in Bay Area before we talk about CNNs and WPs.
Once the streets of SJ are hit with 1000+ people, those NBCs and CNNs and SJMs will come to us rather than we going to them.
As for myself, I am in whenever the event takes place and will try to bring at least 5 of my friends to the march.
P.S.: This is not an effort to criticize anyone here but just an attempt to help the organizers in whatever way I can.
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GC08
05-06 06:24 PM
I think we should be careful about what we (Employment based immigrats, esp. those who are stuck in backlogs) support. I definitely do not support any reform that does not give us priority or does not eliminate employment based immigration backlogs.
I also think green card lottery, chain immigration, and refugee green cards should be eliminated and those visa numbers should be used for employment based immigrants because all these people can immigrate just like us through employment. We contribute more to the American society and should be given priority. I guess when we become American someday, we would like immigrants who contribute to our community too. Isn't that right? :)
I also think green card lottery, chain immigration, and refugee green cards should be eliminated and those visa numbers should be used for employment based immigrants because all these people can immigrate just like us through employment. We contribute more to the American society and should be given priority. I guess when we become American someday, we would like immigrants who contribute to our community too. Isn't that right? :)
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dingudi
12-16 06:56 PM
Guys, any update on your FP notices? I have written to ombudsman almost 3 weeks ago about not receiving FP notices and nothing yet...
What are you guys thinking as next step?
No update from my side. I had called last week and week before that. Apparently I got the same IO the last two times and first time she told me no FP scheduled , security check cleared. Second time she said no FP scheduled and I asked about security check and she said its still pending. Imagine same IO giving inconsistent information regarding my security check. I am not even sure to believe anything they say anymore. I am not even sure if they really look it up or not.
What are you guys thinking as next step?
No update from my side. I had called last week and week before that. Apparently I got the same IO the last two times and first time she told me no FP scheduled , security check cleared. Second time she said no FP scheduled and I asked about security check and she said its still pending. Imagine same IO giving inconsistent information regarding my security check. I am not even sure to believe anything they say anymore. I am not even sure if they really look it up or not.
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h1b_forever
02-01 08:03 AM
I agree with your assessment. I was there myself this past dec/Jan and I am thinking along the same lines
I dont see why we need to struggle here and the future looks so bleak. India is really booming and we have missed out on the best 5 years of that. If we dont move back in the next 2-3 years we would have missed out on the biggest boom period in India's history.
There was a time when Infrastructure in India was the biggest concern, but things are changing rapidly. I was amazed at the changes in the last 2 years since I was last there.
Good luck to you and hopefully I am able to make up my mind soon
I dont see why we need to struggle here and the future looks so bleak. India is really booming and we have missed out on the best 5 years of that. If we dont move back in the next 2-3 years we would have missed out on the biggest boom period in India's history.
There was a time when Infrastructure in India was the biggest concern, but things are changing rapidly. I was amazed at the changes in the last 2 years since I was last there.
Good luck to you and hopefully I am able to make up my mind soon
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mirage
03-08 10:23 PM
While your story is interesting, but I beg to differ again, because, immigration is not something which would be discussed in the Congress for the first time, if we are successfull in bringing something. Each and every single lawmaker in this country understand immigration to the extent that you may not even start to guess...People who oppose us have been putting their restrictive bills again and again so they are going to continue doing that despite of us do something or sleep, do you think Numbersusa wait for us to do something, their anti.... mill will keep churning.
Let me give you a story:
On one of my teams; there was a super star supervisor. He was accused of having inappropriate e-mails.
HR wanted him fired and opened up a big investigation. His manager comes to me and tells me that we have to do everything possible to save him as he is a very key person and irreplaceable.
I went upto HR with my boss to tell them that this particular person could not be fired under any circumstance and that we should let this indiscretion go.
They should be and my boss the e-mails. The e-mails basically were so male chaveunistic and racist. I probably had sent these types of funny jokes in my career and so had my boss and probably so have all of us. We didn't think it was a big deal when taken in context but we had to risk our own credibility and fight with HR to save him. In the process of doing so; we would have lost our credibility with the evidence against him. Even if we fought it; we would have still lost but it would have stained our reputation with HR area by trying to fight for this guy.
Now; senators/congressmen who don't have much knowledge and you present to them why the country quota, etc., should be changed; will be given evidence through their research of what is going on with h-1b, labors in fast procesing states, etc., In this environment where there is sentiment against immigration it will fall on deaf ears and maybe even skew things in the future for you with the politicians because they are getting insight into this stuff at the wrong time.
Take my example of adopting newphew. As I said this isn't the only case; when they start seeing that number of people from India is due to many causes (arranged marriage and adding dependents always from India after they arrive here; staffing companies, h-1b violations, etc, etc.,); the circumstances are not on your side. This is the fourth recession I am living through in this country. In just about each one; immigrants bore a dispropritanate share of blame for the countries ills.
Let me give you a story:
On one of my teams; there was a super star supervisor. He was accused of having inappropriate e-mails.
HR wanted him fired and opened up a big investigation. His manager comes to me and tells me that we have to do everything possible to save him as he is a very key person and irreplaceable.
I went upto HR with my boss to tell them that this particular person could not be fired under any circumstance and that we should let this indiscretion go.
They should be and my boss the e-mails. The e-mails basically were so male chaveunistic and racist. I probably had sent these types of funny jokes in my career and so had my boss and probably so have all of us. We didn't think it was a big deal when taken in context but we had to risk our own credibility and fight with HR to save him. In the process of doing so; we would have lost our credibility with the evidence against him. Even if we fought it; we would have still lost but it would have stained our reputation with HR area by trying to fight for this guy.
Now; senators/congressmen who don't have much knowledge and you present to them why the country quota, etc., should be changed; will be given evidence through their research of what is going on with h-1b, labors in fast procesing states, etc., In this environment where there is sentiment against immigration it will fall on deaf ears and maybe even skew things in the future for you with the politicians because they are getting insight into this stuff at the wrong time.
Take my example of adopting newphew. As I said this isn't the only case; when they start seeing that number of people from India is due to many causes (arranged marriage and adding dependents always from India after they arrive here; staffing companies, h-1b violations, etc, etc.,); the circumstances are not on your side. This is the fourth recession I am living through in this country. In just about each one; immigrants bore a dispropritanate share of blame for the countries ills.
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mirage
03-07 11:48 AM
Nothing had been achieven in last 9 years. Last thing when anything that congress did for immigration was AC21 in 2000. Than how do you thing whatever our agenda is, can be achieved ?? While I think our agenda has to be modified so that we don't ask them what they have been rejecting repeatedly.
Why dont we all stick to a common agenda where there are more chances rather than everyone coming with some and in the end you know what happens...
IV is a platform where people do things together NOT everyone digressing in their own ways..not right...
Why dont we all stick to a common agenda where there are more chances rather than everyone coming with some and in the end you know what happens...
IV is a platform where people do things together NOT everyone digressing in their own ways..not right...
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senk1s
07-22 11:47 AM
did they ask any questions while stamping? Like why r u keeping PR and filed GC etc?
Can u plz share experience.
I have changed my employer and my new employer got me an extn also my GC is filed by them. Do u have the similar case?
Thanks
Nothing at all about my US GC ... ( i just filed 485 about a year ago - this was about 3 months before that)
These are approx conversations :)
Why did you come here instead of home country ... i came here to do the landing, and thought i'll do the visa stamping as well + Regular employer/ job /education questions ...come back tomorrow to collect the passport
Mine was same employer
Can u plz share experience.
I have changed my employer and my new employer got me an extn also my GC is filed by them. Do u have the similar case?
Thanks
Nothing at all about my US GC ... ( i just filed 485 about a year ago - this was about 3 months before that)
These are approx conversations :)
Why did you come here instead of home country ... i came here to do the landing, and thought i'll do the visa stamping as well + Regular employer/ job /education questions ...come back tomorrow to collect the passport
Mine was same employer
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maag
06-06 04:23 PM
Yes! My I-94 says AOS. I am landing through rainbow bridge in Nigara somewhere later Next week.
Thanks!
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dixie
12-11 10:59 AM
It would be naive and untenable for us to openly ask the lawmakers to limit H1-Bs even while we ourselves on the same visa (and will be for the near future) - it amounts to tacitly acknowledging that H1-Bs are somehow harmful to this country. It wouldn't be any better than numbersUSA saying out with the immigrants even as they themselves are descendants of immigrants.
Our "friends" would love a deal like that .. first use all legal immigrants to oppose the 12 million illegals, then use us to get rid of H1-B, next use us against FB applicants and finally when EBs are too small a group to stand up for themselves, crush them with a sledgehammer !! Cant think of a more elegant application of divide and conquer. So, sorry we are not going to strike any sort of a "deal" with the other side - because the only deal that works for them is out with ALL immigrants. H1-B or GC, legal or illegal are nuances that simply dont exist for them.
Our "friends" would love a deal like that .. first use all legal immigrants to oppose the 12 million illegals, then use us to get rid of H1-B, next use us against FB applicants and finally when EBs are too small a group to stand up for themselves, crush them with a sledgehammer !! Cant think of a more elegant application of divide and conquer. So, sorry we are not going to strike any sort of a "deal" with the other side - because the only deal that works for them is out with ALL immigrants. H1-B or GC, legal or illegal are nuances that simply dont exist for them.
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diptam
08-18 01:44 PM
Pappu,
This is not freedom of speech what that guy said. He is raising very bad allegations (without any proof) against the very organization that we have tremendous respect and we all stand for.
Once again this is my opinion to ban such fellows.
Thanks !
DO NOT post such baseless allegations.
IV core is very much aware of the problems as we ourselves face them, and working within our limited means and time. If you are interested, join us and give your helping hand.
This is not freedom of speech what that guy said. He is raising very bad allegations (without any proof) against the very organization that we have tremendous respect and we all stand for.
Once again this is my opinion to ban such fellows.
Thanks !
DO NOT post such baseless allegations.
IV core is very much aware of the problems as we ourselves face them, and working within our limited means and time. If you are interested, join us and give your helping hand.
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desi3933
06-28 01:38 PM
-- Must be a U.S. Permanent Resident. Sponsorship is not offered for this role (required)
This is not correct from legal point of view. I would put this statement as
-- Must have valid work authorization. Sponsorship for any work visa is not offered.
Employer can not ask for kind of authorization. It could be, EAD, OPT, GC etc. As long as applicant is qualified as per I-9 form, kind of authorization should not matter.
Of course, H-1B applicant can not apply for this job position since visa sponsorship is not available.
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Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
This is not correct from legal point of view. I would put this statement as
-- Must have valid work authorization. Sponsorship for any work visa is not offered.
Employer can not ask for kind of authorization. It could be, EAD, OPT, GC etc. As long as applicant is qualified as per I-9 form, kind of authorization should not matter.
Of course, H-1B applicant can not apply for this job position since visa sponsorship is not available.
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Not a legal advice.
US citizen of Indian origin
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jthomas
05-08 10:42 PM
How about framing a letter and getting 5000 copies through a printing press for $125/- and send it to all the lawmakers, press media. We have done a flyier campaign for IV how about a flyer campaign again.
:) The stamps would be getting expensive, Buy it today or tommorrow from Costco (100 forever stamps for 41 dollars:(
It is true that country quota is a discrimination. But when you just try to remove the country quota other country persons are going to oppose as they will be impacted if country quota is removed. But if you try with other agenda like recapture then opposition may not be strong and also every one will get benefit.
QUOTE=hindu_king;339926]Below is what I sent. Maybe we can tweak this letter and send it to all senators and congressmen.
Subject: Discrimination of Indian Immigrants
Dear President Obama,
I wanted to bring to your attention the plight of hundreds of thousands of highly skilled Indian immigrants waiting endlessly for many years in order to obtain a permanent residency in the US. The process of getting a permanent residency is a long, winding, time consuming, financially and emotionally draining experience, with no end at sight. After 5 to 10 years of waiting in line, paying taxes, obeying law, many high skilled workers from India find that permanent residency is only a dangling carrot that they may never get it.
One of the biggest hurdles for high skilled immigrants from India is a country cap that limits applicants from any one country from having more than 7% of the available employment based green cards (140,000 visa numbers per year). This means applicants from countries like Andorra and Luxembourg get the same number of green cards as applicants from India and China. This causes a person from India and China to wait 5 to 10 years in order to get permanent residency while applicants from all other countries have zero wait time. We are here in USA because we wanted to be a part of USA, and not because we came from a certain country. All applicants should be treated equally and country cap only allows discrimination by national origin in the disguise of fairness to all, as US has a lot more high skilled workers from India or China than from Andorra or Luxembourg.
President Obama, we are here to pursue the American Dream and we find hurdles at every level during the immigration process. I request you to kindly remove the discriminatory country cap and provide us relief. This is a small step that can enormously help hundred of thousands of high skilled immigrants and we will be grateful to you for our lifetime.
Thank you President Obama and you are doing a wonderful job!
Sincerely,
Xxxxx xxxxx[/QUOTE]
:) The stamps would be getting expensive, Buy it today or tommorrow from Costco (100 forever stamps for 41 dollars:(
It is true that country quota is a discrimination. But when you just try to remove the country quota other country persons are going to oppose as they will be impacted if country quota is removed. But if you try with other agenda like recapture then opposition may not be strong and also every one will get benefit.
QUOTE=hindu_king;339926]Below is what I sent. Maybe we can tweak this letter and send it to all senators and congressmen.
Subject: Discrimination of Indian Immigrants
Dear President Obama,
I wanted to bring to your attention the plight of hundreds of thousands of highly skilled Indian immigrants waiting endlessly for many years in order to obtain a permanent residency in the US. The process of getting a permanent residency is a long, winding, time consuming, financially and emotionally draining experience, with no end at sight. After 5 to 10 years of waiting in line, paying taxes, obeying law, many high skilled workers from India find that permanent residency is only a dangling carrot that they may never get it.
One of the biggest hurdles for high skilled immigrants from India is a country cap that limits applicants from any one country from having more than 7% of the available employment based green cards (140,000 visa numbers per year). This means applicants from countries like Andorra and Luxembourg get the same number of green cards as applicants from India and China. This causes a person from India and China to wait 5 to 10 years in order to get permanent residency while applicants from all other countries have zero wait time. We are here in USA because we wanted to be a part of USA, and not because we came from a certain country. All applicants should be treated equally and country cap only allows discrimination by national origin in the disguise of fairness to all, as US has a lot more high skilled workers from India or China than from Andorra or Luxembourg.
President Obama, we are here to pursue the American Dream and we find hurdles at every level during the immigration process. I request you to kindly remove the discriminatory country cap and provide us relief. This is a small step that can enormously help hundred of thousands of high skilled immigrants and we will be grateful to you for our lifetime.
Thank you President Obama and you are doing a wonderful job!
Sincerely,
Xxxxx xxxxx[/QUOTE]
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SGP
09-27 09:45 AM
saw an interesting video on youtube the other day. The first thing that came to mind was the eb2-eb3 fights. If only we can fight together rather than each other ! ;)
youtube - every indian must see this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc4ultkrjsw) exellent one. United we stand divided we fall. The british too took advantage of our non-unity. Let's learn a lesson from our history.:)
youtube - every indian must see this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc4ultkrjsw) exellent one. United we stand divided we fall. The british too took advantage of our non-unity. Let's learn a lesson from our history.:)
alex99
04-30 02:06 PM
gcbikari ,
Your argument is wrong. From the PERM FLATDATA Center DATA,
These are the Figures for TOAL LABOR CERTIFICATIONS for all the countries:
2003--->62912
2004--->43,582
2005---->6133
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1,12,627
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Your argument is wrong. From the PERM FLATDATA Center DATA,
These are the Figures for TOAL LABOR CERTIFICATIONS for all the countries:
2003--->62912
2004--->43,582
2005---->6133
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1,12,627
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sina
08-01 01:45 PM
In the same boat and waiting.
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EB3 PD: May '06
I-140: Aug '06 (Filed with NSC and approved from TSC)
485 Filed - July 6th
LUD on I-140- 07/28/2007
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EB3 PD: May '06
I-140: Aug '06 (Filed with NSC and approved from TSC)
485 Filed - July 6th
LUD on I-140- 07/28/2007
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