walking_dude
06-25 09:30 PM
While we keep hearing the rhetoric about "H1B-only ads" by anti-immigrant groups, there is absolutely no news about thousands of "US Citizens only" or "US citizen or GC onl"y ads that we see every day.
While I understand there is a genuine case of 'Citizens Only' when it comes to jobs that involve national security, 98% of the job ads have nothing to do with national security and or government clearance. Most of these are clear and simple violations of Equal Employment Opportunity law, and hence illegal.
Since no one seems to be interested in reporting on this pervasive violation of law and illegal behavior, I have decided to start this thread to report on this highly-prevalent form of discrimination. I invite other members to post similar Job-ad E-mails on this thread (or open other threads) to highlight this issue. This will enable us to post the links whenever someone brings-up the issue of H1b-only Ads next trime. It might also enable members to report to EEOC in large numbers and/or shame the recruiters/employers from posting such blatantly discriminatory job ads.
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Hi:
Greetings for the Day!
This is Ruby from Charter Global Inc. Our client is looking for a "Java/ J2ee Developer" in Warren NJ. This could be a great opportunity for you and all you need is to reply to this message to indicate your interest, availability, legal status and salary requirements with your updated resume to present to our client.
Rate: $42/ hr during the contract
Job Title: Java/ J2ee Developer
Location: Warren NJ
Duration: 6 Months Contract with possible extension
Client for this position is looking for Only US Citizens
Strong J2EE, Java, Struts, Oracle resumes right away
Plus: Spring and Hibernate
Regards
Ruby Roy
Technical Recruiter
Charter Global, Inc.
Toll Free: (866) 570-1818 X 337
Fax: 404-745-8755
E-mail: Ruby@charterglobal.com
URL: Welcome to Charter Global Inc. (http://www.charterglobal.com)
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While I understand there is a genuine case of 'Citizens Only' when it comes to jobs that involve national security, 98% of the job ads have nothing to do with national security and or government clearance. Most of these are clear and simple violations of Equal Employment Opportunity law, and hence illegal.
Since no one seems to be interested in reporting on this pervasive violation of law and illegal behavior, I have decided to start this thread to report on this highly-prevalent form of discrimination. I invite other members to post similar Job-ad E-mails on this thread (or open other threads) to highlight this issue. This will enable us to post the links whenever someone brings-up the issue of H1b-only Ads next trime. It might also enable members to report to EEOC in large numbers and/or shame the recruiters/employers from posting such blatantly discriminatory job ads.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi:
Greetings for the Day!
This is Ruby from Charter Global Inc. Our client is looking for a "Java/ J2ee Developer" in Warren NJ. This could be a great opportunity for you and all you need is to reply to this message to indicate your interest, availability, legal status and salary requirements with your updated resume to present to our client.
Rate: $42/ hr during the contract
Job Title: Java/ J2ee Developer
Location: Warren NJ
Duration: 6 Months Contract with possible extension
Client for this position is looking for Only US Citizens
Strong J2EE, Java, Struts, Oracle resumes right away
Plus: Spring and Hibernate
Regards
Ruby Roy
Technical Recruiter
Charter Global, Inc.
Toll Free: (866) 570-1818 X 337
Fax: 404-745-8755
E-mail: Ruby@charterglobal.com
URL: Welcome to Charter Global Inc. (http://www.charterglobal.com)
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makemygc
08-01 08:44 PM
Up until July 29, 2007 (incl.) when sorting of files was going on, NSC did a load sharing of files with TSC. (and btw they did not look at where ones' I-140 is adjudicated when making the selection, it was random. I know several such cases)
This in my opinion is a very good way of making sure adjudicating resources are kept in balance at both centers.
Like somone quiet rightly pointed out it is akin to the old Labor Certification process where some states were way faster than others (less demand faster process).
In the direct filing which started July 30, 2007 the load sharing has a great possibilty of being tilted one way or the other (though maybe not as much as old LC's). They have made a geographical distribution and not one that factors # of applications traditionally received from states.
On the other hand, may be USCIS has figured that the particular geographical jurisdiction produces the right load sharing between NSC and TSC!
CA and NY were the two states which were always backlogged during those bad old days of labor processing. Now, CA application goes to TSC and NY goes to NSC and that might keep both the centers balanced going forward.
But I think rather than dividing based on the states, they should rather do a load balancing based on the request coming..just like our network works :)
Load balancing can be simply based on the round robin fashion..one goes to TSC other goes to NSC and so on.
How difficult is to build that kind of system and to keep it balanced and fair for all.
This in my opinion is a very good way of making sure adjudicating resources are kept in balance at both centers.
Like somone quiet rightly pointed out it is akin to the old Labor Certification process where some states were way faster than others (less demand faster process).
In the direct filing which started July 30, 2007 the load sharing has a great possibilty of being tilted one way or the other (though maybe not as much as old LC's). They have made a geographical distribution and not one that factors # of applications traditionally received from states.
On the other hand, may be USCIS has figured that the particular geographical jurisdiction produces the right load sharing between NSC and TSC!
CA and NY were the two states which were always backlogged during those bad old days of labor processing. Now, CA application goes to TSC and NY goes to NSC and that might keep both the centers balanced going forward.
But I think rather than dividing based on the states, they should rather do a load balancing based on the request coming..just like our network works :)
Load balancing can be simply based on the round robin fashion..one goes to TSC other goes to NSC and so on.
How difficult is to build that kind of system and to keep it balanced and fair for all.

Caliber
07-28 10:21 AM
It is indeed sad that you continue to pontificate from a perch of indifference and ignorance. We all know that the entire EB immigration system is not a zero sum game (just ask Ron Hira and his ilk). Sad thing is, when it comes to EB3 I's, EB 2's such as you suddenly transform into a Ron Hira lite ... going about throwing broad hints about how the system is setup the way it is ... to serve those 'higher in the pecking order'.
If we were to buy this weak attempt at making a 'logical point', I would be glad to give Ron a call and have his folks look into YOUR respective EB2 applications and find out if there REALLY was "NO" qualified US worker available for that job. Want to play that game?
Look, the EB system is what it is. Instead of trying to bait others into silence by suddenly finding 'fairness in this system', only because this part of the puzzle narrowly goes to serve / protect your gains ... try to come together to fix the underlying weakness in the system.
For the record, I am not bitter about a 7+ year 'wait'. On the contrary, I have grown professionally thanks to the opportunity to focus my energies towards building a Billion dollar corporation. That said, I would LOVE to see the paperwork of EB2 Java 'gurus' and L1 converts stand up to true scrutiny ... and that would open a whole new can of worms. Game?
A great explanation. Your challenge is good. Those who oppose this, should come forward to check if there are really no qualified US Citizens available for their jobs.
I know many L1 employees of Cognizant who come on L1 as Managers with just 2 years of Experience and file in EB1. Sad part is few people use Legal loopholes and screw all others.
If we were to buy this weak attempt at making a 'logical point', I would be glad to give Ron a call and have his folks look into YOUR respective EB2 applications and find out if there REALLY was "NO" qualified US worker available for that job. Want to play that game?
Look, the EB system is what it is. Instead of trying to bait others into silence by suddenly finding 'fairness in this system', only because this part of the puzzle narrowly goes to serve / protect your gains ... try to come together to fix the underlying weakness in the system.
For the record, I am not bitter about a 7+ year 'wait'. On the contrary, I have grown professionally thanks to the opportunity to focus my energies towards building a Billion dollar corporation. That said, I would LOVE to see the paperwork of EB2 Java 'gurus' and L1 converts stand up to true scrutiny ... and that would open a whole new can of worms. Game?
A great explanation. Your challenge is good. Those who oppose this, should come forward to check if there are really no qualified US Citizens available for their jobs.
I know many L1 employees of Cognizant who come on L1 as Managers with just 2 years of Experience and file in EB1. Sad part is few people use Legal loopholes and screw all others.
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Canadianindian
07-06 05:21 PM
Can someone organize something in NY/NJ?
I am in for NY/NJ. Can also muster about 10 ppl or more.
I am in for NY/NJ. Can also muster about 10 ppl or more.
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sankap
07-10 03:14 PM
I-140 is for future job, and the petition says that the original employer has *intent* to hire the petitioner on FT/"perm" job. Now, let's say the original employer withdraws the petition after 180 days of filing I-485 and approved I-140 and lets you go. That's where AC21 comes to rescue, and you can become "self-employed" rather than "unemployed." Question is, why can't self-employment in same/similar occupation as your I-140 petition be considered to satisfy I-140 requirement? (Fortunately, yes it can be, per Yates memo.) Another situation: If you continue working with the same employer on H-1B until you get your GC, and leave him the next day of getting GC, and then plan to take a long holiday (not working). Would your GC be canceled because you don't have a FT/"perm" job?
I-140 is for future GC and hence, must be full time and permanent.
I-140 is not for current H-1B job.
You are mixing two things.
I-140 is for future GC and hence, must be full time and permanent.
I-140 is not for current H-1B job.
You are mixing two things.

GCStatus
09-16 05:14 PM
I can contribute $200 - and dont be disheartened if only 2 people responded today - keep the thread and top and give it visibility!
we've gotta keep moving forward ....!
There you go
we've gotta keep moving forward ....!
There you go
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gc_on_demand
05-01 12:53 PM
gc_on_demand,
Please dont mix priority date with quota.
spouse's priority date will be the same as primary priority date.
We are discussing about quota here.
I know Spouse's PD will be same as Primary's PD . But good for people who filled 485. If person has latest PD let says Aug 2007 (Eb2 india ) .. Under Eb category he may be able to file 485. But dependent may not be able to file 485 as Family quota is backlogged. Family quota also has PD and category. Under which category spouses of primary will fall ? F2A ? F2B ? do you know this ?
Please dont mix priority date with quota.
spouse's priority date will be the same as primary priority date.
We are discussing about quota here.
I know Spouse's PD will be same as Primary's PD . But good for people who filled 485. If person has latest PD let says Aug 2007 (Eb2 india ) .. Under Eb category he may be able to file 485. But dependent may not be able to file 485 as Family quota is backlogged. Family quota also has PD and category. Under which category spouses of primary will fall ? F2A ? F2B ? do you know this ?
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n.narayan
09-23 09:28 AM
Filed I-485/EAD for me & spouse on : July 23th to TSC.
Received on : July 24th.
Receipts Notice date : Sept 13
Receipt Received : Sept 20.
EAD : Not yet
FP : Not yet
Received on : July 24th.
Receipts Notice date : Sept 13
Receipt Received : Sept 20.
EAD : Not yet
FP : Not yet
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trueguy
07-28 10:48 AM
This thread was opened for working on Action Item. EB2-I community is giving all stupid reasons to divert us from our Action Item. Please stay focused and lets work on Action Items.
We already sent petition to support those three bills. What else shall we do now. We are running out of time and only few days left before Congress goes on recess (or whatever the term is). WE MUST ACT NOW.
Thanks.
We already sent petition to support those three bills. What else shall we do now. We are running out of time and only few days left before Congress goes on recess (or whatever the term is). WE MUST ACT NOW.
Thanks.
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roseball
04-21 07:08 PM
Guys,
I knew Mehul and his family. They migrated to Sweden late January and Mehul passed away peacefully in his sleep on March 2, 2008
Admins, please close/archive this thread. It's painful
This is heart-breaking.....May god give courage to his family during these difficult times and RIP Mehul....
I knew Mehul and his family. They migrated to Sweden late January and Mehul passed away peacefully in his sleep on March 2, 2008
Admins, please close/archive this thread. It's painful
This is heart-breaking.....May god give courage to his family during these difficult times and RIP Mehul....
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vinabath
04-23 04:32 PM
my opinions in bold
Both parties ( employee and employers) bend letter and spirit of law. Think fake resumes, references, experiences on employee side. Think no salary on bench, lack minimum professional decorum, professional ethics on employers side. But overall my sympathies are with employee and more so in this case.
-- How can an employer pay salary on bench when employee wants to be an independent contractor(80%) on w-2
In > 90% of cases I have seen, Desi employers dont operate on good faith. A good example is punitive damages. The employer does h1B, incurs about 5K cost and expects the employee to serve out 12 months. The exit clause is 25K. Its downright silly and precisely what causes employee anxiety. Instead if it is prorated for stay, it would be fair for every one involved.
-- 25k because its just not about H-1b costs. Its business. Business needs to make profits and be healthy. Business dont want H-1B employees who would like to stay for less than an year. It affects other H-1B employees and their immigration process. Businesses hate to ask H-1Bs from INS and cancel H-1s. It puts a blotch on the Business. Afterall INS give H-1B approval hoping that the employee works with the employer for atleast 3 years .
Hoarding I-140, labor certificatio etc and giving no visibility is another deal breaker.I just dont get it.
you are right but this is also forced by H-1B employees.
Some one commented its a small world, apologize if necessary blah blah. If, for a minute the employer in this case thinks in positive way, ( My former employee would be at this place, couuld be in a position where I can sell more, i could get referral for new employees) he wouldnt be doing something like this which downright irresponsible and can cause significant damage to his shareholders. Being a small world goes on both sides.
Thats pretty optimistic and long term thinking.
For a techie, clilent is king. I would never displease the ultimate beneficiary of my services. Even after my project is over, I keep in touch, do occasional free consulting all in hope of building my network. But for employers like these, who add no value, i have no sympathies.
Both parties ( employee and employers) bend letter and spirit of law. Think fake resumes, references, experiences on employee side. Think no salary on bench, lack minimum professional decorum, professional ethics on employers side. But overall my sympathies are with employee and more so in this case.
-- How can an employer pay salary on bench when employee wants to be an independent contractor(80%) on w-2
In > 90% of cases I have seen, Desi employers dont operate on good faith. A good example is punitive damages. The employer does h1B, incurs about 5K cost and expects the employee to serve out 12 months. The exit clause is 25K. Its downright silly and precisely what causes employee anxiety. Instead if it is prorated for stay, it would be fair for every one involved.
-- 25k because its just not about H-1b costs. Its business. Business needs to make profits and be healthy. Business dont want H-1B employees who would like to stay for less than an year. It affects other H-1B employees and their immigration process. Businesses hate to ask H-1Bs from INS and cancel H-1s. It puts a blotch on the Business. Afterall INS give H-1B approval hoping that the employee works with the employer for atleast 3 years .
Hoarding I-140, labor certificatio etc and giving no visibility is another deal breaker.I just dont get it.
you are right but this is also forced by H-1B employees.
Some one commented its a small world, apologize if necessary blah blah. If, for a minute the employer in this case thinks in positive way, ( My former employee would be at this place, couuld be in a position where I can sell more, i could get referral for new employees) he wouldnt be doing something like this which downright irresponsible and can cause significant damage to his shareholders. Being a small world goes on both sides.
Thats pretty optimistic and long term thinking.
For a techie, clilent is king. I would never displease the ultimate beneficiary of my services. Even after my project is over, I keep in touch, do occasional free consulting all in hope of building my network. But for employers like these, who add no value, i have no sympathies.
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pani_6
03-25 05:02 PM
:eek:??..EB3 for the last 7 year has not progresed beyond 2003 June or July..it comes forward and reverts back:mad:
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kshitijnt
04-25 08:26 PM
All the desi employers I ran into or my friends ran into turned out to be blood suckers. before that I was employed by an american company for 6 years and I had no complaint whatsoever.
I think most of us desis consider other desis to be inferior and treat them so.
Atleast your DESI employers start GC early maybe after 6 months. Most american employers dont even start GC until you are in 5th year of H1. Employers are employers, they dont come with nationalities on their forehead. There are so many american companies who have filed bankruptcy when a large payment was pending and your desi employer attempted to recover it.
I think most of us desis consider other desis to be inferior and treat them so.
Atleast your DESI employers start GC early maybe after 6 months. Most american employers dont even start GC until you are in 5th year of H1. Employers are employers, they dont come with nationalities on their forehead. There are so many american companies who have filed bankruptcy when a large payment was pending and your desi employer attempted to recover it.
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vishwak
11-18 02:51 PM
Submitted. Got confirmation email too.
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reddymjm
06-08 04:21 PM
I am waiting for the check image to laod. will take an hour or so.
It will start with LIN-07-177-5XXXX. It will be SRC if it is Texas.
It will start with LIN-07-177-5XXXX. It will be SRC if it is Texas.
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akred
05-23 03:58 AM
Sent to 2+10 senators.
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Macaca
07-08 09:49 PM
only 27% of the annual quota is released Oct 1
the first 3 quarters cannot use more than 27% each
that is the whole issue
on the first working day of the month/quarter, where were the remaining 19%
that should be available by law?
how can they allot them on sunday (july 1)? if so they must be willing to accept my application on sunday too...
This is a law violation and I have URL for it. In fact, the law also says that there is a 10% quota for each month.
As I have posted earlier there are other issues. Thus, this is another issue and not the whole issue.
Pursuing this issue and violations of name checking does not get us much. They can cancel some GCs issued but still not accept July AOSs.
We need to concentrate on issues that support accepting July AOSs.
the first 3 quarters cannot use more than 27% each
that is the whole issue
on the first working day of the month/quarter, where were the remaining 19%
that should be available by law?
how can they allot them on sunday (july 1)? if so they must be willing to accept my application on sunday too...
This is a law violation and I have URL for it. In fact, the law also says that there is a 10% quota for each month.
As I have posted earlier there are other issues. Thus, this is another issue and not the whole issue.
Pursuing this issue and violations of name checking does not get us much. They can cancel some GCs issued but still not accept July AOSs.
We need to concentrate on issues that support accepting July AOSs.
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apahilaj
03-04 04:54 PM
As an update,
I called TSC again today. Previously, I called early in the morning here on the East Coast and was transferred to the national service center, so at least this time I got to speak to someone @ TSC.
I gave them my receipt # and as soon as I mentioned biometrics the person said that she will schedule appointments for me and my wife and depending on availability at the local center I should get an appointment letter in the following 60 days. They must be getting a lot of this type of calls because she was very prompt to schedule the appointment. I also asked about my NC status and that was cleared in Sept so good news there as well.
I'm a little more optimistic as this time as at least now I know that USCIS initiated the request.... I'll wait and see what happens next.
So basically, this is the 3rd time I call and the first time they're willing to do anything to help.
I got same exact response as you regarding 60 days wait - only difference is my name check is still pending. Personally, I don't trust this any more until I get it...
I called TSC again today. Previously, I called early in the morning here on the East Coast and was transferred to the national service center, so at least this time I got to speak to someone @ TSC.
I gave them my receipt # and as soon as I mentioned biometrics the person said that she will schedule appointments for me and my wife and depending on availability at the local center I should get an appointment letter in the following 60 days. They must be getting a lot of this type of calls because she was very prompt to schedule the appointment. I also asked about my NC status and that was cleared in Sept so good news there as well.
I'm a little more optimistic as this time as at least now I know that USCIS initiated the request.... I'll wait and see what happens next.
So basically, this is the 3rd time I call and the first time they're willing to do anything to help.
I got same exact response as you regarding 60 days wait - only difference is my name check is still pending. Personally, I don't trust this any more until I get it...
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Blog Feeds
05-08 02:20 PM
The EB-2 category for Indian nationals has retrogressed four years and will be set at January 1, 2000 for applications received beginning June 1st. If you are from China, the backlog is five years less - February 15, 2005. And if you are from any other country in the world, there is no wait at all. I am really appalled that Congress allows such an unjust distribution methodology to remain the law. No country is permitted to claim more than 7% of the numbers in a green card category. That means tiny countries like Andorra and Botswana get the same...
More... (http://blogs.ilw.com/gregsiskind/2009/05/june-visa-bulletin-reveals-terrible-news-for-eb2-indians.html)
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psaxena
09-10 07:23 PM
YOu are a USELESS fellow. Thats right.. Immigration voice core are the ones who are doing whatever they can for you thankless idiots like YOU!!
Why do you care if they care about EB3 or not.. do you care? Seperate effort.. what will you do in that.. again a back bench behind the alias pushing others to do something, without donating or contributing. Who gave you even the right to write here and put your views when you cannot even can consider it trustworthy to donate 2 cents.
BTW keeps your "2 cents" to yourself. I hate reading the post like these.
In my opinion, we need to have separate efforts for EB3 (now that EB3 I and EB3 ROW are in the same boat). If we have someone with leadership qualities and wants to use some social networking site for discussing EB3 issues and identifying approaches to solve the EB3 issues, there will be many EB3 folks willing to support the effort. Immivoice is just useless portal, it doesn't have open forums and the core folks here don't care for EB3. In fact, their lobbying efforts were behind USCIS changing the rule for spilling over the unused visa numbers to EB2 first. Just my 2 cents.
Why do you care if they care about EB3 or not.. do you care? Seperate effort.. what will you do in that.. again a back bench behind the alias pushing others to do something, without donating or contributing. Who gave you even the right to write here and put your views when you cannot even can consider it trustworthy to donate 2 cents.
BTW keeps your "2 cents" to yourself. I hate reading the post like these.
In my opinion, we need to have separate efforts for EB3 (now that EB3 I and EB3 ROW are in the same boat). If we have someone with leadership qualities and wants to use some social networking site for discussing EB3 issues and identifying approaches to solve the EB3 issues, there will be many EB3 folks willing to support the effort. Immivoice is just useless portal, it doesn't have open forums and the core folks here don't care for EB3. In fact, their lobbying efforts were behind USCIS changing the rule for spilling over the unused visa numbers to EB2 first. Just my 2 cents.
rajsand
10-02 07:33 PM
Hi,
I applied my 485 on 18th and reached Neberaska.
I have been calling USCIS for the last 5 weeks.Today they gaveme my receipt number only for I-765 and not for others.These were porcessed on Sep18.i have not had the receipt in hand.
My checks are also not cashed at this time .Is some one in the same sitiuation as I am.
Let me know
I applied my 485 on 18th and reached Neberaska.
I have been calling USCIS for the last 5 weeks.Today they gaveme my receipt number only for I-765 and not for others.These were porcessed on Sep18.i have not had the receipt in hand.
My checks are also not cashed at this time .Is some one in the same sitiuation as I am.
Let me know
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